So what looked really impossible, what felt just overwhelming, over time, really diminished. SALT LAKE CITY — Russell M. Nelson, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, offered some tough love on Sunday during the faith’s 189th Annual General Conference. Let’s discuss it. Keep immersed in all the light they can. If the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were to die, how is the next prophet chosen? Sister Sheri Dew: He’s a bridge builder. In this Church News podcast, we celebrate this milestone as guest host Sister Sheri Dew interviews President Nelson’s wife, Sister Wendy Nelson. President Gordon B. Hinckley, 15th president of the Church, explained that each member of the Quorum of the Twelve “holds the keys of this dispensation in latent reserve. And they form a quorum, equal in authority and power to the three presidents previously mentioned.” (See also D&C 112:14–15, regarding the keys of the Quorum of the Twelve.). I know without a doubt he was chosen premortally to be the Lord’s Prophet to the world, on the earth today, at this precise time. But, bottom-line, a new prophet is called by a logical, straightforward process: seniority. They both saw and heard with their natural eyes and ears, and then the words which were uttered came, accompanied by the convincing power of God, to their hearts, and they were filled with the Spirit and with great joy. Sister Wendy Nelson: In a very practical way, let God prevail means for President Nelson that he is on call 24 hours a day for the Lord. If you’ve cheerfully done everything you can do, then it’s time to stand still. There is strengthening power in the Atonement. So he’s different. And then he stands to the side for me to go in through the doorway first. He would like to bring the blessings to every single person himself. What can you tell us about his desire to connect with peoples of diverse backgrounds, and, diverse points of view and his instant ability to express love to them? We believe that with the Lord in charge, He will not let the wrong person become our Church President. Any counsel you would give to someone going through transition, whether it’s marriage, job, health, so many different things? Should the Church continue to function with the Quorum of the Twelve presiding? You had been a very successful professor, you had a reputation around the world for some of the things that you had written in your field, you had been a professor of marriage and family therapy, as well as a therapist. At the beginning of 2017, the new president takes over from the old. Required fields are marked *, Talks on Missionary Work by Prophets and Apostles. Again, building on this, and thinking about so many experiences you’ve had and that you’ve personally witnessed with your husband over the last three years: Is there a moment or maybe some certain kinds of moments that you think typify his ministry? These data correlate closely with my research gathered from traveling to twenty nations. He is single minded. In January 2021, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints celebrates the third anniversary of President Russell M. Nelson serving as the leader of the Church. I know how to follow instructions.” So meaning, “the Lord told me to do this. But how does that look from your point of view? A prophet, then, is the authorized representative of the Lord. Succession in the Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The most senior member of the quorum, Packer was expected to succeed Thomas S. Monson, current Mormon prophet and president of the Church of … He loves that word, hearken, meaning listen to obey. He had a large family already, but it was growing fast. She has authored the biographies of three Church presidents, including the book “Insights from a Prophet’s Life, President Russell M. Nelson.” Sister Wendy Nelson is a retired marriage and family therapist and professor and the wife of President Russell M. Nelson. That’s what we’re talking about. You’re my sister.” That would be with huge congregations. The current prophet, Thomas S. Monson, will serve as long as he lives. He does so in a revealed, orderly fashion through the line of succession. They’re just deep, core good. And all that stopped on a dime, his calendar became your calendar, and you stepped into a brave new world, as it were. He has never done anything accidentally” (in Conference Report, Oct. 1970, 153; or Improvement Era, Dec. 1970, 127). In D&C 107: 23-24, a revelation given to Joseph Smith, the Lord explained that the Quorum of the 12 held the same authority as the First Presidency: “The twelve traveling councilors are called to be the Twelve Apostles, or special witnesses of the name of Christ in all the world—thus differing from other officers in the church in the duties of their calling. But he’s not trying to be inventive, just to be inventive. Something I’ve noticed: Two words that I’ve not heard him use before the last three years — reduce and simplify. Yet the Mormons are apparently in the process of selecting their next prophet. And what has caught my attention is, he doesn’t just want to bring the gospel to every nation, kindred, tongue and people. So that’s just a little context there. The Lord gave His people a testimony that left no room for doubt as to who was the man He had chosen to lead them. 5 times an LDS prophet has called for a worldwide fast Key quotes from the April 2020 Latter-day Saint General Conference How old is each member of the LDS … The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, … headed by the senior apostle, assumes Church leadership. Presiding authority to lead the Church remains with the Quorum of the 12 and the senior apostle becomes the new Church President. His name is Russell Marion Nelson. And sometimes you start with, “OK, God is my Heavenly Father. And he is willing to do whatever he is instructed to do. He doesn’t tell him what the idea is. These girls are sturdy girls, meaning they’re not on every wave that goes by, they’re not on the internet, sniffing out some specious thing that’s out there. But there is a concept that says the more time you spend with someone or something, or even an idea, the more you will become like that person. It is a beautiful process to see how smooth the transition is from one president of the church to the next. Show the faith you have and turn it over to the Lord and then watch what happens. To hear Him, what I’ve learned is we absolutely remove anything that prevents the Spirit from being in our home in full abundance. He will be in line for the LDS President. He does not like walls that separate or segregate. He is serious about letting God prevail in his life and in the life of the Lord’s Church, and in the world to prepare for the Second Coming of the Savior. 4 additional temples to begin Phase 3 in coming weeks Newsroom of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - Editor's note: This press release was originally published on May 7, 2020, and has been updated weekly. I’ve learned what Doctrine in Covenants 123:17 says, which has been a favorite of mine forever. And so that was just wonderful. If a motion to reorganize the First Presidency is passed, the Quorum of the Twelve unanimously selects the new president of the Church. Sister Wendy Nelson: I wouldn’t tell them that we need them and how important they are, because they’ve been told that. With the death of President Thomas S. Monson the top leadership structure of the church is transformed, temporarily. So that’s what happens when he’s with the imams, when he’s with our friends from the NAACP, when he is with whomever — let God’s love prevail. Sister Sheri Dew: OK, in this most recent general conference, President Nelson gave really a classic address, I think it will become a classic: “Let God Prevail.” I’ve heard it quoted a billion times in the last two months. This special Church News podcast examines President Nelson’s first three years from the perspective of his wife, Sister Wendy Watson Nelson. Theresa Dear while meeting with NAACP leaders at the 110th annual national convention for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Detroit on Sunday, July 21, 2019. The authority exists to provide continuous priesthood keys on the earth, and an orderly pattern has been established. To have him be voice when we are having our family prayer is really something. He is reaching out to leaders of the NAACP, something that had heretofore not been done. In fact, just the other day, I received an email from one of our friends in Indonesia. I think about, here’s a man who for 34 years played the organ every Thursday for the Brethren in the temple. And I said, I said, “Where did those trips go?” And he said, “I just felt like we didn’t need to do them. If we’re with someone, and they will say, “Oh, President Nelson, thank you for this. But I think that’s just shows how quick he is to adapt, which is really fascinating to watch. You’ve heard me talk about this before. And looked from January through July, every single month, there was a huge trip, and arenas, huge arenas, booked. Sister Wendy Nelson: What I’ve learned about hearing Him is this: That everything we do in our home is to increase his ability and my ability to hear the voice of the Lord, as brought to us by the Spirit. So that’s what I’d say is sacrifice and go give service across the room, across the street, across the world, across the veil. The First Presidency is automatically dissolved. We wish them well, but for us conditioned beings to be selecting the next prophet does not always end well. What do you see personally about his regard for women. When your husband becomes President of the Church, it is different traveling with the President the Church than it is with [traveling with] … a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. Amos 3:7. She’ll be led to do it. And they and their spouse, with the Lord, will figure things out. So this is early January, this is pre-COVID. And I just watch him be undaunted. If he knows something needs to happen, again, I don’t know details. Sister Wendy Nelson: I love that question. So he is compelled to do that. The last Nephite prophet in the Book of Mormon (about A.D. 421). Throughout the history of the Church. He really does pray for the people of the world, even when there isn’t a camera rolling. Sister Sheri Dew: When you married Elder Russell M. Nelson in 2006, you kind of stepped onto a moving train. Sister Wendy Nelson: Number one, stick with what you know to be true. This is a man on a mission for the Lord. We know this was going to happen.” And then he goes to plan B. Sister Sheri Dew: So continuing on in this line of thought about how your husband feels about women, he’s the father of nine daughters. Sidney Rigdon, who had been a member of the First Presidency with Joseph Smith, was among those who claimed to be the next leader of the Church. I was better for that. As I hinted at, instead of the traditional format for this Church News podcast, we are going to step back and listen to a conversation between these two amazing women. He had been a member of the Quorum of the Twelve for two decades, more than two decades. John Taylor Prophet from October 10, 1880 to July 25, 1887. And so, of course, he’s different. It was part of a global tour of eight countries. Summary: Based on the authority bestowed by God and historical precedence, the senior apostle becomes the next prophet and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when the current prophet dies. I think we see that in the photographs, the footage that’s been shot of him around the world. Everyone fully expects the new prophet to be Russell M. Nelson, the current president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. He will never go through a doorway first. That to me says at all, his honoring of woman. The current prophet, Thomas S. Monson, will serve as long as he lives. This means it goes automatically to the longest serving leader and that means Mitt Romney can’t be the next prophet. Even more than I knew three years ago, I know that there is a Prophet on the land. The Church News is an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But he loves learning and teaching about God’s laws, because then they’re so predictable. As his wife, what is your unique view of that? Sister Sheri Dew: OK, you will soon have been married to President Nelson for 15 years. So anything that offends the Spirit —contention. I know we have a living Prophet. So he does not do hover, you know; he does not do helicopter parenting. Wendy, back off. Sister Sheri Dew: And I know you hope that the day will come soon, we hope, where travel is more doable. And so, of course, it’s easy for him to honor women because he has been with Dantzel who was smart and bright and inspired. President Nelson was next in line behind President Monson in terms of the number of years he’d been a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. He has told me that in a meeting, he will get an idea. In Episode 12 of the Church News podcast, Sister Wendy Nelson speaks about witnessing President Nelson’s prophetic calling in the first three years of his service. Prayer is real. After Sidney Rigdon had spoken and made his case to be “guardian” of the Church, Brigham Young arose and addressed the congregation. All rights reserved. But the order of the Church is that authority is an orderly process, by divine designation, the Prophet (and leader of the Church) is called according to an orderly process, over which the Lord has control. It would have to involve something about the gathering of Israel. This means it goes automatically to the longest serving leader and that means Mitt Romney can’t be the next prophet. Inherent in that divine residual is the assured ongoing leadership of the Church” (in Conference Report, Apr. A prophet is a man who has been called by God to speak for Him. Below you will find out how he is selected, what he does and who succeeds him when he dies. Because he has such confidence in their decision making ability. In this Church News podcast, we celebrate this milestone as guest host Sister Sheri Dew interviews President Nelson’s wife, Sister Wendy Nelson.They explore the life and ministry of the Prophet over the past three years. I’ll tell you what he sees. Who that was present on that occasion can ever forget the impression it made upon them! we watched via satellite so i wasn’t physically there, but i could sense that this was a profound moment for the church. Sister Wendy Nelson: And then the Lord will help you have eyes to see what is the next thing that is really true, then you can add that to your list, and it will be a great thing. [January 16, 2018], a new prophet of the 16-million-member Mormon church was announced. He’s even again, more what looks like courageous and bold, but is just his obedience, his intense, exquisite obedience to whatever the Lord needs him to do. If there was a sporting game, but it became contentious rather than competitive, he would turn it off. Joseph Smith Jr. Prophet from April 6, 1830 to June 27, 1844 (14 years) Brigham Young Prophet from December 27, 1847 to August 29, 1877. I’ve watched this a lot in the last three years. We’ve been managing it … They know how to get things done. Parley P. Pratt, an original member of the Quorum of the 12 Apostles, spoke of this time in his autobiography. And I thought, “OK, well, this is what we’ll do.” And I knew that in between those, there was at least one huge trip a month that in between, we would be doing local opportunities to be with our local congregations. And he’s looking to the next thing. But, bottom-line, a new prophet is called by a logical, straightforward process: seniority. Sister Sheri Dew: OK, your husband has now been President of the Church for three years. And like I say, my husband and I threw away our rear view mirror a long time ago. Brigham Young, as president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, held the keys of the priesthood and had the authority necessary to lead the Church. …But now he was gone to the invisible world, and we and the Church of the Saints were left to mourn in sorrow and without the presence of our beloved founder and Prophet.” With many questions in his mind, Parley was making his way back to Nauvoo when “On a sudden the Spirit of God came upon me, and filled my heart with joy and gladness indescribable… The Spirit said unto me: ‘Lift up your head and rejoice; for behold! Sister Wendy Nelson: He is so different from when I married him and I am so different, at least I hope we are, because our marriage is such a great joy for each of us. Oaks is 85. Brigham Young said many times that he was “no prophet”. There was no “Oh, maybe I’ll love you in 15 days.” This was like, “I love you. “In coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting and constant influence of the Holy Ghost,” he said. Sister Dew, also a former member of the Relief Society general presidency, will be conducting the interview today. It's a formula--just like the conversion of dollars to euros to pesos at a specified exchange rate. This special FHE lesson teaches us how a new prophet is chosen when one passes away. Man, they’re rock solid. Missionaries wait for President Russell M. Nelson of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prior to a devotional in Nuku’alofa, Tonga, on May 23, 2019. After the death of the Prophet Joseph Smith, there was some confusion as to who should lead the Church. The first time the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had to face the issue of succession in the presidency was at the martyrdom of the prophet Joseph Smith. I’m different. They’re not wavering at all. What would you want to tell them? Here is the process, in more detail, as outlined in the Church Newsroom article called Succession in the Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: “When the president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints passes away, the following events take place: The Lord Is In Charge of Who Leads the Church as Prophet. He has not tried to replicate anything that’s been done before. You’ve seen large, large audiences and very small ones, in some places, whereas he’s chosen to go to where the Church is young. This is an important doctrinal question and one that many missionaries will likely face in the course of their daily missionary work. Those are all the things I’ve seen. And so it is today, if the prophet dies, the First Presidency is dissolved. I wish it were appropriate for me to tell you how his prayers have changed. Their presidents are elected over 4-year terms, i.e. Sister Sheri Dew: President Nelson gave a talk called “Hear Him.” What have you learned about hearing Him, how to hear Him, from being married to President Nelson? Imagine this: Exactly a year ago, December 2019, I looked at our 2020 calendar to see where we would be going, where we were traveling. But I think it’s not an accident that we are immersed in the waters of baptism. Bottom line is we miss them. And I know that fasting works. 94-year-old Mormon prophet to scale Mount Everest In this special April 1 edition: The robust nonagenarian Mormon prophet Russell M. Nelson is well on his way to scaling Mount Everest. And really, I can barely remember that time. Sister Wendy Nelson: Well, I can tell you that his daughters are spectacular, which is a true reflection of him as their father, and probably especially their spectacular mother, Dantzel White Nelson. I am a non-LDS who has a great deal of respect for Mormons as being some of the most astonishingly well read Christians that I have ever had the privilege to discuss theology with. Sister Sheri Dew: Let’s switch direction now here just for a second. After a Mormon prophet's death, the process of choosing the next prophet is known as the Order of Succession. Great sacrifice to keep learning. And, of course, we talked to you about your transition because it was on the public stage. Talk to us about that transition. There’s no looking back. I’ve certainly learned that. Would it have anything to do with how to hear Him or would you take it in a separate direction? And until I really started to study what the Savior taught the Nephites, and to say “contention is not of me.” And so, literally, if we would be watching a movie, and there would be contention, he needed to turn it off. Because the Lord has such better ideas about what I should be doing or how he would handle a situation. And I know that praying and fasting with others, for others, brings miracles. You traveled, of course, widely with him before then, for a number of years, but it’s different. Next in line right now is President Oaks, who will be the next prophet after President Nelson. Prophets receive God’s word by revelation and are then commanded to preach to the people (see Amos 3:7; 1 Nephi 22:2; D&C 1:38; Bible Dictionary, “Prophet,” 754). Reduce and simplify. The biggest insult is to say, “Oh, you’re just the same.” So he is different. Summary: Based on the authority bestowed by God and historical precedence, the senior apostle becomes the next prophet and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when the current prophet dies. His prayers are different. There had been gloom, and, in some hearts probably, doubt and uncertainty; but now it was plain to all that here was the man upon whom the Lord had bestowed the necessary authority to act in their midst in Joseph’s stead” (“Joseph Smith, the Prophet,” Juvenile Instructor, Oct. 29, 1870, 174–75). Henry B. Eyring Second Counselor in the First Presidency Soon the members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles did return to Nauvoo, and on August 8, 1844, the Lord showed to a gathering of the saints that Brigham Young, the president of that Quorum, was to be the new prophet and president of the Church. Dallin H. Oaks, a former Utah Supreme Court justice and an LDS apostle for nearly 34 years, is next in line for the presidency after Nelson. To get to your point: What did I learn through that? Here he is the father of nine daughters, and a terrific daughter-in-law; and married to a wonderful woman, Dantzel, a marvelous woman; and upon her passing a second marvelous woman, but what do you see about his regard for women? What do you think let God prevail means for him? But he knows something should happen. They’re really low maintenance, meaning he has great confidence in them. What is the next thing? Jesus Christ is my Savior. But I can tell you that one of the sweetest joys of my life is to hear him pray. Then it is a beautiful thing. Following the reorganization of the First Presidency, the apostle who has served the second longest is sustained as the president of the Quorum of the Twelve…. I’ll tell you some specifics in a minute. He sees those who need healing. President Ezra Taft Benson, 13th president of the Church, taught that “God knows all things, the end from the beginning, and no man becomes president of the church of Jesus Christ by accident, or remains there by chance, or is called home by happenstance” (“Jesus Christ—Gifts and Expectations,” New Era, May 1975, 16–17). I mean, we think about so many things that he has done. You can just see his respect. And suddenly, there she was just saying “Happy Thanksgiving.” So I feel like we’ve got friends all over the world. He’s so quick to adapt. We’ve talked about how he doesn’t see color of people. Sister Sheri Dew: So we’ve had the conversation more than once in our lives where we have said — because maybe we’ve gotten hit with something that we’ve had to sort of recover from or think, “Oh, wow, how do I handle that?” — and we’ve both had the conversation occasion where he said, “OK, what do we know for sure is true?” And it’s what you just said: “Well, I know that God is my father. Then know that you are working with God and with God all things will be possible and you’ll have an amazing experience. It was the voice of Joseph himself; and not only was it the voice of Joseph which was heard; but it seemed in the eyes of the people as though it was the very person of Joseph which stood before them. And he’s figured out a formula that if he does a certain thing, he will win that match. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe the the Lord Jesus Christ is at the head of our church and is firmly in charge of who leads it on the earth. The 93-year-old former heart surgeon, who is the second-oldest man to assume leadership of the 16-million member church, is now considered a “prophet, seer and revelator” by Mormons. It also means let God’s will prevail. And what really caught me off guard was the immediate connection that I would feel every time to every person I would meet on a trip, an instant connection. He does not like categories or labels, because he believes that also separates and segregates. I would feel that speaking to a congregation of 50,000 or a little small branch in Yekaterinburg, Russia — the same thing. A prophet is a teacher. They explore the life and ministry of the Prophet over the past three years. The office falls to the longest-serving member of the faith's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, which means Russell M. Nelson is next in line to … Well, that’s to me when you know that you’re on the Lord’s errand, because I can’t do that. However, once we come up out of those waters, if we only sprinkle our lives — we weren’t sprinkled to be baptized, we were immersed to be baptized. Russell M. Nelson President of the Church. It is an easy thing to believe in the dead prophets. I’ve spoken about this a little bit to say that we love playing Scrabble with each other. He’s wild about God’s love — laws and love. Fasting is real. Sister Wendy Nelson: So let’s just refine that to say — since this last year was no travel — we’re really talking about 35 countries and 14 states in two years. “I had loved Joseph with a warmth of affection indescribable for about fourteen years. But to the question of what I’ve experienced through all of that travel, I feel like I have friends, that we have friends, all over the world. I have learned so much from the people we’ve met. The Scriptures are answer books. © Copyright 2021 James R. Smith | Site by, Missionary Schedule: The Daily Routine Missionaries Follow. If we are in the kitchen, we walked down the hall to go to the office, we walked down the hall together. As as every single woman prays, and then takes note of what the Lord is telling her, this is how you can increase the light in your life, or the truth in your life. What is really happening here? And let me say for you, what does let God prevail mean for the President of the Church and his wife? So we missed them. He is fascinated with formulas — just trying to figure out formulas of his own. Differences that I noticed with him, even in the last three years since becoming president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, he is more future oriented than ever. In another revelation, the Lord affirmed that the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles holds the priesthood keys, the same as the Savior’s apostles of old, to direct the Church: “And also with Peter, and James, and John, whom I have sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles, and especial witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of your ministry and of the same things which I revealed unto them; Unto whom I have committed the keys of my kingdom, and a dispensation of the gospel for the last times; and for the fulness of times, in the which I will gather together in one all things, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth” (D&C 27: 12-13). 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